A Newbie's ramblings.

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
6 messages Options
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

A Newbie's ramblings.

barryb@libero.it
May I chip in?
I have just finished my trial period of Media. Seems to be what I have been looking for since Hypercard days. However, I am a bit put-off buying by the several posts on this list about bugs in the latest version. Have they or will they all be sorted out soon?

The lack of internet deployment for stacks is a pity. I had already made plans for world wide distribution of the "killer ap" I nearly completed before the trial ran out! ;-)
By the way: Hyperstudio can put stacks on the web and viewers can even modify them on line in the browser! At least so they say. But then I am neither a teacher nor a student nor a child.

As for the List itself. Isn't the PC/Mac controversy ever going to drop out of places like this? I have room on my desk for both as well as a Penquin box. Revolution is a product that knocks down the barricades, let's try not to rebuild them!
Maybe people who cite dubious data about Marketing Shares might like to contemplate the following:
 "Statistics are like bikinis, what they show is interesting but what they hide is essential!".

Anyway thanks for the many good tips.
Hoping to join you very soon.

Barry


_______________________________________________
use-revolution mailing list
[hidden email]
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: A Newbie's ramblings.

Garrett Hylltun-2
[hidden email] wrote:
> May I chip in?
> I have just finished my trial period of Media. Seems to be what I have been looking for since Hypercard days. However, I am a bit put-off buying by the several posts on this list about bugs in the latest version. Have they or will they all be sorted out soon?

No and Never.  As they fix one bug, and skip one, they create another
bug.  If I were you, I'd just consider them as features and not bugs.
Not that they aren't trying work out bug, because they are, but it seems
like they'll never actually get on top of all of them.

[snip]
> As for the List itself. Isn't the PC/Mac controversy ever going to drop out of places like this? I have room on my desk for both as well as a Penquin box. Revolution is a product that knocks down the barricades, let's try not to rebuild them!
> Maybe people who cite dubious data about Marketing Shares might like to contemplate the following:
>  "Statistics are like bikinis, what they show is interesting but what they hide is essential!".

This list has a good mix of Mac, Win and Linux.  In my short time here I
have rarely seen any debates about which is better and such.

-Garrett
_______________________________________________
use-revolution mailing list
[hidden email]
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: A Newbie's ramblings.

Sarah Reichelt-2
In reply to this post by barryb@libero.it
Hi Barry and welcome to the Revolution :-)

> May I chip in?
You certainly may - we love to hear from new people as they give us a
different perspective.

> I have just finished my trial period of Media. Seems to be what I have been looking for since Hypercard days. However, I am a bit put-off buying by the several posts on this list about bugs in the latest version. Have they or will they all be sorted out soon?

There are bugs in the IDE itself, most of which can be worked around
in one way or another. There are very few show-stoppers as they get
high priority. In my exerience, the standalones are rock-solid.There
is also Bugzilla - the bug database - where you can report bugs and
vote for those you consider most critical. Remember that for every
negative on the list, there are lots of positives that never get
reported.

> The lack of internet deployment for stacks is a pity. I had already made plans for world wide distribution of the "killer ap" I nearly completed before the trial ran out! ;-)
> By the way: Hyperstudio can put stacks on the web and viewers can even modify them on line in the browser! At least so they say. But then I am neither a teacher nor a student nor a child.

Can't help you there - it isn't something I have ever needed to do.

> As for the List itself. Isn't the PC/Mac controversy ever going to drop out of places like this? I have room on my desk for both as well as a Penquin box. Revolution is a product that knocks down the barricades, let's try not to rebuild them!
> Maybe people who cite dubious data about Marketing Shares might like to contemplate the following:
>  "Statistics are like bikinis, what they show is interesting but what they hide is essential!".

Couldn't agree more :-)

Cheers,
Sarah
_______________________________________________
use-revolution mailing list
[hidden email]
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: A Newbie's ramblings.

Martin Baxter-3
In reply to this post by barryb@libero.it
[hidden email] wrote:
> May I chip in?

I don't think anyone will mind :-),

> I have just finished my trial period of Media.
> Seems to be what I have been looking for since
> Hypercard days. However, I am a bit put-off buying
> by the several posts on this list about bugs in the
> latest version. Have they or will they all be
> sorted out soon?
>

Your concerns are understandable. But you shouldn't be too alarmed by
what you read here. Pleasures and successes of using this software far
outweigh the problems. It's just that solving the problems is what this
list is about.

Revolution is fundamentally a very sound piece of software. Any
show-stopping bugs tend to be fixed pretty quick. Bugs that have
workarounds will be lower priority. This list will help you know what
the workarounds are.

Media is a relatively new product, and a different type of tool from its
older siblings, but I don't recall seeing much in the way of Media
related bug-reports.

Bugs in general always creep into everything somehow. Runtime Revolution
has a bug-reporting database where users can report the details of
suspected bugs. Reports with reproducible symptoms will get fixed
according to rational priorities.

This list is often used to get confirmation from other users whether a
problem is local to a single user/platform or whether it is a general
behaviour or should be considered a feature or a bug.

There are some very smart and helpful people here. No matter how trivial
or arcane your question, it will almost always find an answer here.

In earlier versions there used to be many more bugs than there are now.
This improvement is the result of a conscious effort by the company.

> As for the List itself. Isn't the PC/Mac
> controversy ever going to drop out of places like
> this? I have room on my desk for both as well as a
> Penquin box. Revolution is a product that knocks
> down
> the barricades, let's try not to rebuild them!
> Maybe people who cite dubious data about Marketing
> Shares might like to contemplate the following:
> "Statistics are like bikinis, what they show is
> interesting but what they hide is essential!".
>

Amen to all that. It rears its inevitable head from time to time. But
it's difficult to imagine a less appropriate forum for platform-sniping.
Fortunately most list-members resist the temptation to take part.

I dare say that like you, many of us here run several different
platforms, and are only interested in what is appropriate to each task
rather than general beauty contests.

For me, the principal attraction of Revolution is that it liberates me
from having to commit to using any given platform. I can just use
whichever offers me the most advantage at any given point.

> Anyway thanks for the many good tips.
> Hoping to join you very soon.
>
> Barry
>

Martin Baxter


_______________________________________________
use-revolution mailing list
[hidden email]
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: A Newbie's ramblings.

Thomas McGrath III
In reply to this post by barryb@libero.it
Barry

Welcome to the Revolution!

Tell us more about the World Wide distribution of that "killer  
app"!!!!!   ;-)

I look forward to your involvement on the list.

Tom

On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:23 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> May I chip in?
> I have just finished my trial period of Media. Seems to be what I  
> have been looking for since Hypercard days. However, I am a bit put-
> off buying by the several posts on this list about bugs in the  
> latest version. Have they or will they all be sorted out soon?
>
> The lack of internet deployment for stacks is a pity. I had already  
> made plans for world wide distribution of the "killer ap" I nearly  
> completed before the trial ran out! ;-)
> By the way: Hyperstudio can put stacks on the web and viewers can  
> even modify them on line in the browser! At least so they say. But  
> then I am neither a teacher nor a student nor a child.
>
> As for the List itself. Isn't the PC/Mac controversy ever going to  
> drop out of places like this? I have room on my desk for both as  
> well as a Penquin box. Revolution is a product that knocks down the  
> barricades, let's try not to rebuild them!
> Maybe people who cite dubious data about Marketing Shares might  
> like to contemplate the following:
>  "Statistics are like bikinis, what they show is interesting but  
> what they hide is essential!".
>
> Anyway thanks for the many good tips.
> Hoping to join you very soon.
>
> Barry
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> use-revolution mailing list
> [hidden email]
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your  
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Thomas J McGrath III
[hidden email]

Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com

Lazy River Metal Artâ„¢ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html

Meeting Wear - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear

Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com

SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html







_______________________________________________
use-revolution mailing list
[hidden email]
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: A Newbie's ramblings.

Chipp Walters
In reply to this post by barryb@libero.it
Barry,

Dan Shafer and I recently finished hosting RevConWest in Monterey, CA.
It was IMO a wonderful success. Kevin Miller and Lynn Fredricks from
RR were both there and answered many of the same questions.

As an Enterprise user myself, and one who uses Rev to make a living,
I've been very pleased with the rapid updates and bug fixes in 2.7.
For, as Kevin explained, 2.7 was a very big overhaul of the graphics
engine to put Rev in place to do all the wonderful things which are
now present in modern day OS'es. Any type of endeavor of that
magnitude will introduce bugs. In fact, I found a few of them myself
as a beta-tester, but feel strongly it's a good enough release to have
announced our newest product, ButtonGadget2, with support for Rev 2.7
(www.buttongadget.com). We are also a strong 3rd party supporter of RR
as well, and you can read case-studies, download free plugins and see
some of our Rev 3rd party products at:

www.altuit.com

Good luck with Rev and welcome to the community!
_______________________________________________
use-revolution mailing list
[hidden email]
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution