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Android Status Bar

Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I seem able to hide or show the Android status bar using the radio button in the Standalone Application Settings. I don’t seem able to to this on the fly using  mobileHideStatusBar  or  mobileShowStatusBar once the app is running.
 
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        "mobileHideStatusBar does not have any effect
         on any Android devices with "hardware buttons”
         embedded in the status bar.

I don’t think what I’m testing has these buttons in the status bar, though I’m new to android, so I could be confused.  Even so, the fact that I can hide or show the Android status bar from the Standalone Application Settings seems to indicate that it should be possible…

I didn’t see anything in bugzilla. Has anyone else run into this?
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Re: Android Status Bar

Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I think "status bar" may be a misnomer and it's referring to the three (or
two on Android 10) buttons that are always available at the bottom of the
screen. Those are the Back, Home, and (sometimes) the Recents buttons.
Virtually all Android devices use these "soft buttons" now.

I could be wrong but I've never seen those buttons at the top of the screen
in the status bar area.

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On October 12, 2020 3:11:18 PM scott--- via use-livecode
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> I seem able to hide or show the Android status bar using the radio button
> in the Standalone Application Settings. I don’t seem able to to this on the
> fly using  mobileHideStatusBar  or  mobileShowStatusBar once the app is
> running.
>
> Dictionary:
>        "mobileHideStatusBar does not have any effect
>         on any Android devices with "hardware buttons”
>         embedded in the status bar.
>
> I don’t think what I’m testing has these buttons in the status bar, though
> I’m new to android, so I could be confused.  Even so, the fact that I can
> hide or show the Android status bar from the Standalone Application
> Settings seems to indicate that it should be possible…
>
> I didn’t see anything in bugzilla. Has anyone else run into this?
> --
> Scott Morrow
>
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Re: Android Status Bar

Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Thanks Jacque. Then that IS pretty confusing since the Standalone Application Settings have a “Status Bar” setting and it appears to control the bar at the top of the screen which is what I would expect to match up with the Status Bar on iOS. I guess that will require a feature request… and maybe a documentation adjustment.
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> On Oct 12, 2020, at 4:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think "status bar" may be a misnomer and it's referring to the three (or two on Android 10) buttons that are always available at the bottom of the screen. Those are the Back, Home, and (sometimes) the Recents buttons. Virtually all Android devices use these "soft buttons" now.
>
> I could be wrong but I've never seen those buttons at the top of the screen in the status bar area.
>
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | [hidden email]
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On October 12, 2020 3:11:18 PM scott--- via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I seem able to hide or show the Android status bar using the radio button in the Standalone Application Settings. I don’t seem able to to this on the fly using  mobileHideStatusBar  or  mobileShowStatusBar once the app is running.
>>
>> Dictionary:
>>       "mobileHideStatusBar does not have any effect
>>        on any Android devices with "hardware buttons”
>>        embedded in the status bar.
>>
>> I don’t think what I’m testing has these buttons in the status bar, though I’m new to android, so I could be confused.  Even so, the fact that I can hide or show the Android status bar from the Standalone Application Settings seems to indicate that it should be possible…
>>
>> I didn’t see anything in bugzilla. Has anyone else run into this?
>> --
>> Scott Morrow
>>
>> Elementary Software
>> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
>> web       https://elementarysoftware.com/
>> email     [hidden email]
>> booth    1-360-734-4701
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Re: Android Status Bar

Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Hmmm...

SivaSiva shows/hides the status bar.  Checking the launcher app settings, it does have the status bar set to hidden.  So based on that, just use the hidden option and show the status bar as required while inside the app.

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 12, 2020, at 9:19 PM, scott--- via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jacque. Then that IS pretty confusing since the Standalone Application Settings have a “Status Bar” setting and it appears to control the bar at the top of the screen which is what I would expect to match up with the Status Bar on iOS. I guess that will require a feature request… and maybe a documentation adjustment.
> --
> Scott Morrow
>
> Elementary Software
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>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 4:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I think "status bar" may be a misnomer and it's referring to the three (or two on Android 10) buttons that are always available at the bottom of the screen. Those are the Back, Home, and (sometimes) the Recents buttons. Virtually all Android devices use these "soft buttons" now.
>>
>> I could be wrong but I've never seen those buttons at the top of the screen in the status bar area.
>>
>> --
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | [hidden email]
>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>> On October 12, 2020 3:11:18 PM scott--- via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I seem able to hide or show the Android status bar using the radio button in the Standalone Application Settings. I don’t seem able to to this on the fly using  mobileHideStatusBar  or  mobileShowStatusBar once the app is running.
>>>
>>> Dictionary:
>>>      "mobileHideStatusBar does not have any effect
>>>       on any Android devices with "hardware buttons”
>>>       embedded in the status bar.
>>>
>>> I don’t think what I’m testing has these buttons in the status bar, though I’m new to android, so I could be confused.  Even so, the fact that I can hide or show the Android status bar from the Standalone Application Settings seems to indicate that it should be possible…
>>>
>>> I didn’t see anything in bugzilla. Has anyone else run into this?
>>> --
>>> Scott Morrow
>>>
>>> Elementary Software
>>> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
>>> web       https://elementarysoftware.com/
>>> email     [hidden email]
>>> booth    1-360-734-4701
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Android Status Bar

Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I decided to make a simple test stack… which I should have done before my initial post. In my experimentation, if the Standalone Application Settings are used to hide the Status Bar then the command  “mobileShowStatusBar" will have have no effect when used later in the running app.   If the Standalone Application Settings are used to show the Status Bar then “mobileHideStatusBar" only hides the icons in the bar (well, most of them) but not the actual bar itself. While this has a certain logic, it is quite different than the way it works on an iPhone. On iOS the actual bar is hidden thereby making that space available to the application. This can be useful when rotating to landscape. In my case I am working to adapt an existing iOS app and I was confused as to why mobileHideStatusBar wasn’t freeing up space when rotating to landscape.

(Brian, I looked through the SivaSiva app and couldn’t find any screens with a Status Bar showing though the app is huge and admittedly I did not examine every screen :- )

Scott Morrow

> On Oct 12, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hmmm...
>
> SivaSiva shows/hides the status bar.  Checking the launcher app settings, it does have the status bar set to hidden.  So based on that, just use the hidden option and show the status bar as required while inside the app.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 9:19 PM, scott--- via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jacque. Then that IS pretty confusing since the Standalone Application Settings have a “Status Bar” setting and it appears to control the bar at the top of the screen which is what I would expect to match up with the Status Bar on iOS. I guess that will require a feature request… and maybe a documentation adjustment.
>> --
>> Scott Morrow
>>
>> Elementary Software
>> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
>> web       https://elementarysoftware.com/
>> email     [hidden email]
>> booth    1-360-734-4701
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 4:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think "status bar" may be a misnomer and it's referring to the three (or two on Android 10) buttons that are always available at the bottom of the screen. Those are the Back, Home, and (sometimes) the Recents buttons. Virtually all Android devices use these "soft buttons" now.
>>>
>>> I could be wrong but I've never seen those buttons at the top of the screen in the status bar area.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | [hidden email]
>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>>> On October 12, 2020 3:11:18 PM scott--- via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I seem able to hide or show the Android status bar using the radio button in the Standalone Application Settings. I don’t seem able to to this on the fly using  mobileHideStatusBar  or  mobileShowStatusBar once the app is running.
>>>>
>>>> Dictionary:
>>>>     "mobileHideStatusBar does not have any effect
>>>>      on any Android devices with "hardware buttons”
>>>>      embedded in the status bar.
>>>>
>>>> I don’t think what I’m testing has these buttons in the status bar, though I’m new to android, so I could be confused.  Even so, the fact that I can hide or show the Android status bar from the Standalone Application Settings seems to indicate that it should be possible…
>>>>
>>>> I didn’t see anything in bugzilla. Has anyone else run into this?
>>>> --
>>>> Scott Morrow
>>>>
>>>> Elementary Software
>>>> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
>>>> web       https://elementarysoftware.com/
>>>> email     [hidden email]
>>>> booth    1-360-734-4701
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
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