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Another fine mess I find myself in...

John Dixon
I have done something that I don't usually do... I have installed the latest stuff without waiting for the 'shrieks of despair' to appear in the list to find out what the problems are...


I upgraded my iphone to 10

I upgraded liveCode to 8.1


After doing this I noticed that the status bar at the top of the screen was nudging everything down 20 pixels... Just to see what was happening, I got rid of the status bar... then things were, let's say OK...


I deleted the stack from the iPhone and loaded it afresh...

Now it seems that there is a problem with running .lc scripts :-( in that nothing is returned, no data is being returned... the .lc script queries a database and returns some data... but it is not happening...


any clues ?
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Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

Richard Gaskin
John Dixon wrote:

 > I have done something that I don't usually do... I have installed the
 > latest stuff without waiting for the 'shrieks of despair' to appear
 > in the list to find out what the problems are...
 >
 > I upgraded my iphone to 10
 > I upgraded liveCode to 8.1

In that case you have no choice but to use LC v8.1, since apparently
among the other changes in iOS is is a stronger requirement about some
of the specifics of how orientation and splash screens work.

We've had a couple reports of LC apps that work find under earlier
versions of iOS exhibiting odd behaviors under iOS 10 Beta.

Fortunately the team was able to resolve those, and AFAIK the Stable
release of v8.1 addresses all iOS 10 issues, possibly including:

 > After doing this I noticed that the status bar at the top of the
 > screen was nudging everything down 20 pixels... Just to see what
 > was happening, I got rid of the status bar... then things were,
 > let's say OK...
 >
 > I deleted the stack from the iPhone and loaded it afresh...
 >
 > Now it seems that there is a problem with running .lc scripts :-( in
 > that nothing is returned, no data is being returned... the .lc script
 > queries a database and returns some data... but it is not
 > happening...
 >
 > any clues ?

I wonder if this comment about splash screen applies to your circumstance:
<http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18327#c27>

If not this is an excellent reminder of why we want to use the latest
build of LC whenever possible, and almost always when a version of iOS
is in Beta.  iOS has well known to be less concerned with maintaining
backward compatibility than most other OSes, so working with the latest
builds of both iOS and LC will help ensure any potential issues are
identified early enough to be addressed before release.

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Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

John Dixon
Richard...


iOS 10.0.1 appeared as an update on my iPhone, so I guess it is out of beta.

I guess I will have to stay with LC 8.1.0 as it is said to be stable now...


I have just tested another stack that uses .lc scripts to query a database and with that one everything seems fine. I am just a little confused now why one stack does not work as I did nothing to it except upgrade... I really hope I don't have to 'rewrite it', as it were... lots of scripts to contend with...:-(


Thanks for the reply...:-)




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From: use-livecode <[hidden email]> on behalf of Richard Gaskin <[hidden email]>
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:32
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Subject: Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

John Dixon wrote:

 > I have done something that I don't usually do... I have installed the
 > latest stuff without waiting for the 'shrieks of despair' to appear
 > in the list to find out what the problems are...
 >
 > I upgraded my iphone to 10
 > I upgraded liveCode to 8.1

In that case you have no choice but to use LC v8.1, since apparently
among the other changes in iOS is is a stronger requirement about some
of the specifics of how orientation and splash screens work.

We've had a couple reports of LC apps that work find under earlier
versions of iOS exhibiting odd behaviors under iOS 10 Beta.

Fortunately the team was able to resolve those, and AFAIK the Stable
release of v8.1 addresses all iOS 10 issues, possibly including:

 > After doing this I noticed that the status bar at the top of the
 > screen was nudging everything down 20 pixels... Just to see what
 > was happening, I got rid of the status bar... then things were,
 > let's say OK...
 >
 > I deleted the stack from the iPhone and loaded it afresh...
 >
 > Now it seems that there is a problem with running .lc scripts :-( in
 > that nothing is returned, no data is being returned... the .lc script
 > queries a database and returns some data... but it is not
 > happening...
 >
 > any clues ?

I wonder if this comment about splash screen applies to your circumstance:
<http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18327#c27>

If not this is an excellent reminder of why we want to use the latest
build of LC whenever possible, and almost always when a version of iOS
is in Beta.  iOS has well known to be less concerned with maintaining
backward compatibility than most other OSes, so working with the latest
builds of both iOS and LC will help ensure any potential issues are
identified early enough to be addressed before release.

--
  Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World Systems
  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

J. Landman Gay
On 9/14/16 1:19 PM, John Dixon wrote:
> I have just tested another stack that uses .lc scripts to query a
> database and with that one everything seems fine. I am just a little
> confused now why one stack does not work as I did nothing to it
> except upgrade

Did you double-check the inclusions? Maybe some of them went missing.

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Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

Richard Gaskin
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John Dixon wrote:

 > iOS 10.0.1 appeared as an update on my iPhone, so I guess it is out
 > of beta.

Nice to see them maintain backward compatibility at least as far as
10.0.0. ;)


 > I have just tested another stack that uses .lc scripts to query a
 > database and with that one everything seems fine. I am just a little
 > confused now why one stack does not work as I did nothing to it
 > except upgrade...

Glad to hear it's working there, but odd that it didn't in the other.
Please let us know if you find the cause.

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Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

John Dixon
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Subject: Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

On 9/14/16 1:19 PM, John Dixon wrote:
> I have just tested another stack that uses .lc scripts to query a
> database and with that one everything seems fine. I am just a little
> confused now why one stack does not work as I did nothing to it
> except upgrade

Did you double-check the inclusions? Maybe some of them went missing.

It seems that the stack that is using .lc scripts to query a database that is running on hostm is fine<http://www.hyperactivesw.com>...
However the stack that is using .lc scripts to query a database that is running on on-rev is the one giving problems...

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Re: Another fine mess I find myself in...

Dave Kilroy
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John is the stack connecting to .lc scripts on on-rev in a SSL domain? If not could it be an issue with ATS? i.e. if you tick the ‘Disable ATS’ box does it make a difference?

But either way, yet another reason why hostm knocks on-rev into a cocked hat

Kind regards

Dave


> It seems that the stack that is using .lc scripts to query a database that is running on hostm is fine<http://www.hyperactivesw.com <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/>>...
> However the stack that is using .lc scripts to query a database that is running on on-rev is the one giving problems...
>
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