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Embarrasssing old bugs

Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Hi all, hi mothership,

a customer of mine asked me to help him, he needs to deliver an
update to his existing app.

I hade been mentoring him, a complete newbie, about two years ago
and after a couple of months he had an app in the iOS store and in
the Google Paly store (or what this is called). Not too bad. :-)

And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not have
"system date" etc. on Android!?
<https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11726>
As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc.

And that we still have no (LC typically easy) way of displaying a PDF on Android.

How embarrassing is this in 2020?
If we want to get an even higher ranking than 36 on TIOBE, this should be fixed as
soon as possible.

This is of course only my "not humble at all" opinion! :-)


Best

Klaus

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Re: Embarrasssing old bugs

Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
This is why I always convert dates to what I call SQL datetime (YY:MM:DD HH:MM:SS). For display purposes I format as needed. Not sure this would help on an Android though.

Bob S


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 09:55 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not have
> "system date" etc. on Android!?
> <https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11726>
> As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc.


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Re: Embarrasssing old bugs

Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Hi Bob,

> Am 14.01.2020 um 19:04 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
> This is why I always convert dates to what I call SQL datetime (YY:MM:DD HH:MM:SS). For display purposes I format as needed.

sure, that's what we do in the moment, but something like this is not easily worked around:
-> As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc.

> Not sure this would help on an Android though.

Not really. :-)

> Bob S
>
>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 09:55 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not have
>> "system date" etc. on Android!?
>> <https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11726>
>> As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc.

Best

Klaus

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Re: Embarrasssing old bugs

Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
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There are more things which are still not possible in LC concerning mobile. It goes back to 2011 and that is get ads in your app. Or decent touch possibilities like TUIO for all desktop platforms.

Klaus major-k via use-livecode <[hidden email]> schreef op 14 januari 2020 18:55:33 CET:

>Hi all, hi mothership,
>
>a customer of mine asked me to help him, he needs to deliver an
>update to his existing app.
>
>I hade been mentoring him, a complete newbie, about two years ago
>and after a couple of months he had an app in the iOS store and in
>the Google Paly store (or what this is called). Not too bad. :-)
>
>And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not
>have
>"system date" etc. on Android!?
><https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11726>
>As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc.
>
>And that we still have no (LC typically easy) way of displaying a PDF
>on Android.
>
>How embarrassing is this in 2020?
>If we want to get an even higher ranking than 36 on TIOBE, this should
>be fixed as
>soon as possible.
>
>This is of course only my "not humble at all" opinion! :-)
>
>
>Best
>
>Klaus
>
>--
>Klaus Major
>https://www.major-k.de
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>
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Re: Embarrasssing old bugs

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Klaus wrote
"How embarrassing is this in 2020? If we want to get an even higher ranking than 36 on TIOBE, this should be fixed as 
soon as possible."

It is: embarrassing. The fact that the LC engine cannot does not produce

ISO-8601 standard dates

https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html

is one testimony of why the "Livecode Project"  "regresses" as much as it tries to "proceed forward"

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7833

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4636


There are several "convert date" libraries knocking around. That would help you….

BR




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Re: Embarrasssing old bugs

Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Hi Swami,

> Am 14.01.2020 um 20:53 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>
> Klaus wrote
> "How embarrassing is this in 2020? If we want to get an even higher ranking than 36 on TIOBE, this should be fixed as
> soon as possible."
> It is: embarrassing. The fact that the LC engine cannot does not produce
> ISO-8601 standard dates
> https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html
> is one testimony of why the "Livecode Project"  "regresses" as much as it tries to "proceed forward"
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7833
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4636

Ouch! :-/

> There are several "convert date" libraries knocking around. That would help you….

Thank you, but after now more than 20 years using of MC/RR/R/LC I know how to do that. :-D

> BR

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Klaus

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Re: Embarrasssing old bugs

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Kalus major-k wrote:

>> Am 14.01.2020 um 20:53 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>> There are several "convert date" libraries knocking around. That would help you….
>
> Thank you, but after now more than 20 years using of MC/RR/R/LC I know how to do that. :-D

The irony here is that in the DB file itself the date is stored as an
integer, which LC could hand off to it quite easily, were it not for the
SQL interface that demands a specific textual representation.

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Klaus:

Ouch! :-/

> There are several "convert date" libraries knocking around. That would help you….

Thank you, but after now more than 20 years using of MC/RR/R/LC I know how to do that. __
------------
HA! Maybe would can add comments to that "enhancement"
And thus we have a 13 year old feature request __

Well, are least in says something for Livecode Longevity/Stability.

Meanwhile I know an "associate" who jumps for Angular, to React, to Gatsby and finally settles for (you won't believe this) for Word Press. There's something to be said for

 "now more than 20 years using of MC/RR/R/LC I know how to do that."




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