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Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi,
is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?

Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.

Regards,

Matthias Rebbe




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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Matthias,

You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial desktop installation.

After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet calls.

Regards,

Charles

> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?
>
> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias Rebbe
>
>
>
>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
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Be aware of these issues
- Using tsNetGet() on LC server to request a files list
from a FTP server returns nothing, so tsNetRetrData() is empty.

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18961

related, but didn't write a separate report:
- Using tsNetSendCmd() on LC server to send an asynchronous
command to a FTP server returns empty without executing
the command.

And don't expect to get access to the extended feature set
of tsNet Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activate
a business license for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.
For what it’s worth, this and the issues mentioned above are
the reasons why my half-finished revIgniter FTP library is waiting
on the shelf since about one year.


Ralf


> On 28. May 2018, at 01:06, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?
>
> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias Rebbe


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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi all,



*>>>>>>>>And don't expect to get access to the extended feature setof tsNet
Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activatea business license
for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.*

This is no longer the case, this bug has been fixed since LC 8.1.8 RC-1:

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793

Best,
Panos
--



On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode <
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> Be aware of these issues
> - Using tsNetGet() on LC server to request a files list
> from a FTP server returns nothing, so tsNetRetrData() is empty.
>
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18961
>
> related, but didn't write a separate report:
> - Using tsNetSendCmd() on LC server to send an asynchronous
> command to a FTP server returns empty without executing
> the command.
>
> And don't expect to get access to the extended feature set
> of tsNet Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activate
> a business license for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.
> For what it’s worth, this and the issues mentioned above are
> the reasons why my half-finished revIgniter FTP library is waiting
> on the shelf since about one year.
>
>
> Ralf
>
>
> > On 28. May 2018, at 01:06, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is
> there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the
> external to my custom installation?
> >
> > Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the
> external.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthias Rebbe
>
>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Panos,

thanks for your comment.

So Livecode Server 9.0 includes this fix also?

i  somehow lost the overview of what fix/feature in what LC 8 was also added to what LC9 version.

Regards,
Matthias


> Am 28.05.2018 um 11:28 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> *>>>>>>>>And don't expect to get access to the extended feature setof tsNet
> Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activatea business license
> for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.*
>
> This is no longer the case, this bug has been fixed since LC 8.1.8 RC-1:
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793 <https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793>
>
> Best,
> Panos
> --
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Be aware of these issues
>> - Using tsNetGet() on LC server to request a files list
>> from a FTP server returns nothing, so tsNetRetrData() is empty.
>>
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18961
>>
>> related, but didn't write a separate report:
>> - Using tsNetSendCmd() on LC server to send an asynchronous
>> command to a FTP server returns empty without executing
>> the command.
>>
>> And don't expect to get access to the extended feature set
>> of tsNet Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activate
>> a business license for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.
>> For what it’s worth, this and the issues mentioned above are
>> the reasons why my half-finished revIgniter FTP library is waiting
>> on the shelf since about one year.
>>
>>
>> Ralf
>>
>>
>>> On 28. May 2018, at 01:06, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is
>> there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the
>> external to my custom installation?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the
>> external.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>
>>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Matthias,

Yes, LC 9.0.0 does include this fix. A rule of thumb is that any fix that
appears in LC version X, will also appear in the version(s) X+1 that will
be released after version X.

Hope this helps.

Panos
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On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> thanks for your comment.
>
> So Livecode Server 9.0 includes this fix also?
>
> i  somehow lost the overview of what fix/feature in what LC 8 was also
> added to what LC9 version.
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
>
> > Am 28.05.2018 um 11:28 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > *>>>>>>>>And don't expect to get access to the extended feature setof
> tsNet
> > Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activatea business
> license
> > for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.*
> >
> > This is no longer the case, this bug has been fixed since LC 8.1.8 RC-1:
> >
> > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793 <
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793>
> >
> > Best,
> > Panos
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Be aware of these issues
> >> - Using tsNetGet() on LC server to request a files list
> >> from a FTP server returns nothing, so tsNetRetrData() is empty.
> >>
> >> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18961
> >>
> >> related, but didn't write a separate report:
> >> - Using tsNetSendCmd() on LC server to send an asynchronous
> >> command to a FTP server returns empty without executing
> >> the command.
> >>
> >> And don't expect to get access to the extended feature set
> >> of tsNet Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activate
> >> a business license for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.
> >> For what it’s worth, this and the issues mentioned above are
> >> the reasons why my half-finished revIgniter FTP library is waiting
> >> on the shelf since about one year.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ralf
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 28. May 2018, at 01:06, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
> >> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is
> >> there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy
> the
> >> external to my custom installation?
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the
> >> external.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Matthias Rebbe
> >>
> >>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
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Hi Panos,

I know that tsNetVersion() yielding an error is fixed.

But does this really mean that all  tsNet Business
features are enabled on LC server (business)?

Just did tests (got my files from the shelf) using
as an example asynchronous requests, which failed.
Synchronous flavours worked as expected.


Ralf


> On 28. May 2018, at 11:28, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> *>>>>>>>>And don't expect to get access to the extended feature setof tsNet
> Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activatea business license
> for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.*
>
> This is no longer the case, this bug has been fixed since LC 8.1.8 RC-1:
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793 <https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793>
>
> Best,
> Panos


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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Ralf,

Previously the Business version of the tsNet external had licensing issues
with the commercial version of the LC server, so any tsNet related command
was throwing an error. This was addressed in this bug report.

If you see that some Business features of tsNet do not work in LC Server,
could you please file a bug report so as we or Charles can track it?

Kind regards,
Panos
--



On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> I know that tsNetVersion() yielding an error is fixed.
>
> But does this really mean that all  tsNet Business
> features are enabled on LC server (business)?
>
> Just did tests (got my files from the shelf) using
> as an example asynchronous requests, which failed.
> Synchronous flavours worked as expected.
>
>
> Ralf
>
>
> > On 28. May 2018, at 11:28, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > *>>>>>>>>And don't expect to get access to the extended feature setof
> tsNet
> > Business on LC server. Seems there is no way to activatea business
> license
> > for tsNet on server, don’t think this has changed.*
> >
> > This is no longer the case, this bug has been fixed since LC 8.1.8 RC-1:
> >
> > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793 <
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19793>
> >
> > Best,
> > Panos
>
>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
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Hi Charles,

thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at HostM.com <http://hostm.com/>. They installed a Livecode server commercial version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to install it for every addon domain folder.
Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. But it was not working.
I get this error message:
file "/home/ua82xxxx/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
  row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
This is what they replied to support request.
"It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can look into this and run some tests on their end.
The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
put the externals of stack “Home"
put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but the developer should be able to look into this.”

Any idea what might cause this.

Regards,

Matthias


> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial desktop installation.
>
> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet calls.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
>> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?
>>
>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Matthias Rebbe
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Matthias,

Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?

Regards,

Charles

> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at HostM.com <http://hostm.com/>. They installed a Livecode server commercial version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to install it for every addon domain folder.
> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. But it was not working.
> I get this error message:
> file "/home/ua82xxxx/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
>  row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
> This is what they replied to support request.
> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can look into this and run some tests on their end.
> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
> put the externals of stack “Home"
> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but the developer should be able to look into this.”
>
> Any idea what might cause this.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>
>> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Hi Matthias,
>>
>> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial desktop installation.
>>
>> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet calls.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
I am not sure. But would that make a difference? There is only one type of Livecode Server commercial. And according to Panos´ post to this thread the tsNet Business external should work since release 8.1.10.

I´ve tried myself and made a custom installation on my web server. I installed LC Server 8.1.10 commercial to the cgi-bin and copied the tsNet-x64.so (from the Livecode Business installation on my Mac) to the externals folder on the web server..
It´s the same. Should i try Indy instead?

Btw. Is there a LC command/function which returns what type of Livecode server (community or commercial) is running?

Regards,

Matthias


> Am 29.05.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
>> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at HostM.com <http://hostm.com/>. They installed a Livecode server commercial version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to install it for every addon domain folder.
>> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. But it was not working.
>> I get this error message:
>> file "/home/ua82xxxx/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
>> row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
>> This is what they replied to support request.
>> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can look into this and run some tests on their end.
>> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
>> put the externals of stack “Home"
>> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
>> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
>> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
>> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but the developer should be able to look into this.”
>>
>> Any idea what might cause this.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>>> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>
>>> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial desktop installation.
>>>
>>> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet calls.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

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Hi Matthias,

Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.

You can use ‘the editionType’ to determine if LC server is Indy (commercial) or Business (professional).

Regards,

Charles

> On 29 May 2018, at 6:09 pm, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I am not sure. But would that make a difference? There is only one type of Livecode Server commercial. And according to Panos´ post to this thread the tsNet Business external should work since release 8.1.10.
>
> I´ve tried myself and made a custom installation on my web server. I installed LC Server 8.1.10 commercial to the cgi-bin and copied the tsNet-x64.so (from the Livecode Business installation on my Mac) to the externals folder on the web server..
> It´s the same. Should i try Indy instead?
>
> Btw. Is there a LC command/function which returns what type of Livecode server (community or commercial) is running?
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>
>> Am 29.05.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Hi Matthias,
>>
>> Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Charles,
>>>
>>> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at HostM.com <http://hostm.com/>. They installed a Livecode server commercial version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to install it for every addon domain folder.
>>> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. But it was not working.
>>> I get this error message:
>>> file "/home/ua82xxxx/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
>>> row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
>>> This is what they replied to support request.
>>> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can look into this and run some tests on their end.
>>> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
>>> put the externals of stack “Home"
>>> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
>>> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
>>> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
>>> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but the developer should be able to look into this.”
>>>
>>> Any idea what might cause this.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>
>>>> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial desktop installation.
>>>>
>>>> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet calls.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

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On 05/29/2018 01:22 AM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.

Actually the editionType reports "community".

Interestingly, only the Community edition can be downloaded from the
downloads page. The other versions all throw 404s.

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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Mark,

My apologies, I meant only one commercial edition of LC server.  You download it from livecode.com after logging in to your account.

Cheers,

Charles

> On 29 May 2018, at 6:41 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 05/29/2018 01:22 AM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Matthias,
>> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.
>
> Actually the editionType reports "community".
>
> Interestingly, only the Community edition can be downloaded from the downloads page. The other versions all throw 404s.
>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Starting from 8.1.9 IIRC, there are two editions of LC commercial server:
Indy and Business.

You have to login into your account in livecode.com and then you can
download the edition that matches your license.

For example if you are Business on Mac and want to download LC Server 9,
the .zip file you can download is named
"LiveCodeBusinessServer-9.0.0-Mac.zip"

Cheers,
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> Hi Mark,
>
> My apologies, I meant only one commercial edition of LC server.  You
> download it from livecode.com after logging in to your account.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charles
>
> > On 29 May 2018, at 6:41 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/29/2018 01:22 AM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote:
> >> Hi Matthias,
> >> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports
> itself to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the
> business edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.
> >
> > Actually the editionType reports "community".
> >
> > Interestingly, only the Community edition can be downloaded from the
> downloads page. The other versions all throw 404s.
> >
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Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
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Hi Charles,

i´ve checked now and my custom 8.1.10 LC Server Business returns Professional.
The tsNet-x64.so file was copied directly into the ‘externals' folder in cgi-bin.
The file was taken from a Livecode Business 8.1.10 Mac OX S app bundle.

So this seems all to be correct, but it doesn´t work.

I even tried Livecode Server Indy 8.1.10 and the tsNet-x64.so from  8.1.10 Indy Mac OX X app bundle.
The same.

Any ideas what i can try next? What am i missing?

Regards
Matthias


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> Von: Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>
> Betreff: Aw: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?
> Datum: 29. Mai 2018 um 10:22:01 MESZ
> An: How to use LiveCode <[hidden email]>
> Kopie: Charles Warwick <[hidden email]>
> Antwort an: How to use LiveCode <[hidden email]>
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.
>
> You can use ‘the editionType’ to determine if LC server is Indy (commercial) or Business (professional).
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
>> On 29 May 2018, at 6:09 pm, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure. But would that make a difference? There is only one type of Livecode Server commercial. And according to Panos´ post to this thread the tsNet Business external should work since release 8.1.10.
>>
>> I´ve tried myself and made a custom installation on my web server. I installed LC Server 8.1.10 commercial to the cgi-bin and copied the tsNet-x64.so (from the Livecode Business installation on my Mac) to the externals folder on the web server..
>> It´s the same. Should i try Indy instead?
>>
>> Btw. Is there a LC command/function which returns what type of Livecode server (community or commercial) is running?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>>> Am 29.05.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>
>>> Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Charles,
>>>>
>>>> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at HostM.com <http://hostm.com/>. They installed a Livecode server commercial version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not have to install it for every addon domain folder.
>>>> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. But it was not working.
>>>> I get this error message:
>>>> file "/home/ua82xxxx/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
>>>> row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
>>>> This is what they replied to support request.
>>>> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can look into this and run some tests on their end.
>>>> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
>>>> put the externals of stack “Home"
>>>> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
>>>> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
>>>> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
>>>> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but the developer should be able to look into this.”
>>>>
>>>> Any idea what might cause this.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>>
>>>>> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal commercial desktop installation.
>>>>>
>>>>> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other tsNet calls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 May 2018, at 9:06 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> is anyone already using tsNet external with Livecode server? If so, is there something i should take care of when trying to “install” / copy the external to my custom installation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately the commercial LC server builds still do not contain the external.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

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On 05/29/2018 03:41 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> Starting from 8.1.9 IIRC, there are two editions of LC commercial server:
> Indy and Business.
>
> You have to login into your account in livecode.com and then you can
> download the edition that matches your license.
>
> For example if you are Business on Mac and want to download LC Server 9,
> the .zip file you can download is named
> "LiveCodeBusinessServer-9.0.0-Mac.zip"

Um. No. Sorry.

<https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityPlusServer-9_0_0-Linux-x86_64.zip>

throws a 404. That's a "not found", not a permissions violation. Same
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Mark,

I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus" in
the previous link does work.

RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only if
you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
which you can alter to give you a direct download.

Best regards,
Panos
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> On 05/29/2018 03:41 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Starting from 8.1.9 IIRC, there are two editions of LC commercial server:
>> Indy and Business.
>>
>> You have to login into your account in livecode.com and then you can
>> download the edition that matches your license.
>>
>> For example if you are Business on Mac and want to download LC Server 9,
>> the .zip file you can download is named
>> "LiveCodeBusinessServer-9.0.0-Mac.zip"
>>
>
> Um. No. Sorry.
>
> <https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_0/LiveCodeCommu
> nityPlusServer-9_0_0-Linux-x86_64.zip>
>
> throws a 404. That's a "not found", not a permissions violation. Same
> thing for any of the other links I tried.
>
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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
On 05/29/2018 10:05 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
> LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus" in
> the previous link does work.
>
> RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only if
> you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
> which you can alter to give you a direct download.

Begs the question of why non-working links exist on the download page.

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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Mark,

I apologize, I had not realized that these links (for commercial servers)
exist on the downloads page. They should not be there, as they are invalid.

Thanks for pointing this out.

Best,
Panos
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> On 05/29/2018 10:05 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I think the LiveCodeCommunityPlus Server has no difference from the
>> LiveCodeCommunity Server. Using "Community" instead of "CommunityPlus" in
>> the previous link does work.
>>
>> RE the commercial servers (Indy and Business), you can access them only if
>> you login to your livecode.com account, so there is no URL of this form
>> which you can alter to give you a direct download.
>>
>
> Begs the question of why non-working links exist on the download page.
>
>
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