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[OT] Renewing Apple Developer ID Installer Certificate

Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I sell and distribute Mac apps from my own website and have the Apple
Developer ID Application Certificate and the Developer ID Installer
Certificate. I've been notified that they will both expire in a couple
of days.

According to the Apple web site, if the Developer ID Installer
Certificate expires, users will *not* be able to install any
applications signed with the certificate. (an expired Developer ID
Application Certificate is not a problem for existing installers).

What I can't seem to find are instructions on *renewing* the
certificate. I found one article that said I needed to revoke the old
one and then create a new one. That makes me a little nervous. Obviously
I don't want to screw this up and have customers going crazy, while I'm
frantically trying to figure out what to do.

You would think that Apple would have an easy Steps 1-2-3 to renew, but
I sure can't find them. Anyone done this recently? Should I revoke the
old one or wait till it expires?

Thanks for any help,
Marty


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Re: [OT] Renewing Apple Developer ID Installer Certificate

Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I would think that it’s the same as with iOS. When you go back to https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/ <https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/> after renewing your subscription it will most likely have an expired certificate. You make a new one, then go to the provisioning profile for your app, it should show as expired. Edit it and re-select the certificate, picking the new one.

If the current certificate is still valid for a while you can still edit the provisioning profile to give it a fresh start.

If you edit a provisioning profile file you should find an ExpirationDate entry that gives the date it will expire.


> On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Marty Knapp via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I sell and distribute Mac apps from my own website and have the Apple Developer ID Application Certificate and the Developer ID Installer Certificate. I've been notified that they will both expire in a couple of days.
>
> According to the Apple web site, if the Developer ID Installer Certificate expires, users will *not* be able to install any applications signed with the certificate. (an expired Developer ID Application Certificate is not a problem for existing installers).
>
> What I can't seem to find are instructions on *renewing* the certificate. I found one article that said I needed to revoke the old one and then create a new one. That makes me a little nervous. Obviously I don't want to screw this up and have customers going crazy, while I'm frantically trying to figure out what to do.
>
> You would think that Apple would have an easy Steps 1-2-3 to renew, but I sure can't find them. Anyone done this recently? Should I revoke the old one or wait till it expires?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Marty
>

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Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thanks Colin. It is a bit different than iOS (and I'm not selling in the
Mac App Store either). What I've done at this point is to generate new
certificates for both the Developer ID Application and Developer ID
Installer. There appears to be no renewal capability. I use AppWrapper
to codesign my apps and in looking at the setup, I'm guessing that
Developer ID Installer certificate, while required in AppWrapper, is
only for when you build an installer package (I use a DMG).

I'll have to wait till Wednesday when my old certificates expire to see
if I have trouble with the previously signed apps. If someone knows
anything more, I'm all ears. Hopefully I'm good for another 5 years,
when I'll forget how to do this all over again - I love getting old!

Marty

> I would think that it’s the same as with iOS. When you go back to https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/ <https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/> after renewing your subscription it will most likely have an expired certificate. You make a new one, then go to the provisioning profile for your app, it should show as expired. Edit it and re-select the certificate, picking the new one.
>
> If the current certificate is still valid for a while you can still edit the provisioning profile to give it a fresh start.
>
> If you edit a provisioning profile file you should find an ExpirationDate entry that gives the date it will expire.
>
>
>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Marty Knapp via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I sell and distribute Mac apps from my own website and have the Apple Developer ID Application Certificate and the Developer ID Installer Certificate. I've been notified that they will both expire in a couple of days.
>>
>> According to the Apple web site, if the Developer ID Installer Certificate expires, users will *not* be able to install any applications signed with the certificate. (an expired Developer ID Application Certificate is not a problem for existing installers).
>>
>> What I can't seem to find are instructions on *renewing* the certificate. I found one article that said I needed to revoke the old one and then create a new one. That makes me a little nervous. Obviously I don't want to screw this up and have customers going crazy, while I'm frantically trying to figure out what to do.
>>
>> You would think that Apple would have an easy Steps 1-2-3 to renew, but I sure can't find them. Anyone done this recently? Should I revoke the old one or wait till it expires?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Marty
>>


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Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Hi Marty,
even if your certificate expires on wednesday, your old signed apps will never expire, you just can't sign a new app with the old expired certificate.
Tiemo

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: use-livecode [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Marty Knapp via use-livecode
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Juli 2017 00:35
An: Colin Holgate via use-livecode <[hidden email]>
Cc: Marty Knapp <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [OT] Renewing Apple Developer ID Installer Certificate

Thanks Colin. It is a bit different than iOS (and I'm not selling in the Mac App Store either). What I've done at this point is to generate new certificates for both the Developer ID Application and Developer ID Installer. There appears to be no renewal capability. I use AppWrapper to codesign my apps and in looking at the setup, I'm guessing that Developer ID Installer certificate, while required in AppWrapper, is only for when you build an installer package (I use a DMG).

I'll have to wait till Wednesday when my old certificates expire to see if I have trouble with the previously signed apps. If someone knows anything more, I'm all ears. Hopefully I'm good for another 5 years, when I'll forget how to do this all over again - I love getting old!

Marty

> I would think that it’s the same as with iOS. When you go back to https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/ <https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/> after renewing your subscription it will most likely have an expired certificate. You make a new one, then go to the provisioning profile for your app, it should show as expired. Edit it and re-select the certificate, picking the new one.
>
> If the current certificate is still valid for a while you can still edit the provisioning profile to give it a fresh start.
>
> If you edit a provisioning profile file you should find an ExpirationDate entry that gives the date it will expire.
>
>
>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Marty Knapp via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I sell and distribute Mac apps from my own website and have the Apple Developer ID Application Certificate and the Developer ID Installer Certificate. I've been notified that they will both expire in a couple of days.
>>
>> According to the Apple web site, if the Developer ID Installer Certificate expires, users will *not* be able to install any applications signed with the certificate. (an expired Developer ID Application Certificate is not a problem for existing installers).
>>
>> What I can't seem to find are instructions on *renewing* the certificate. I found one article that said I needed to revoke the old one and then create a new one. That makes me a little nervous. Obviously I don't want to screw this up and have customers going crazy, while I'm frantically trying to figure out what to do.
>>
>> You would think that Apple would have an easy Steps 1-2-3 to renew, but I sure can't find them. Anyone done this recently? Should I revoke the old one or wait till it expires?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Marty
>>


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Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
That's only true for apps in the app store.  For corporate apps/apps you
distribute privately, you have to rebuild them every year with new certs.

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 2:47 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Marty,
> even if your certificate expires on wednesday, your old signed apps will
> never expire, you just can't sign a new app with the old expired
> certificate.
> Tiemo
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: use-livecode [mailto:[hidden email]] Im
> Auftrag von Marty Knapp via use-livecode
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Juli 2017 00:35
> An: Colin Holgate via use-livecode <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Marty Knapp <[hidden email]>
> Betreff: Re: [OT] Renewing Apple Developer ID Installer Certificate
>
> Thanks Colin. It is a bit different than iOS (and I'm not selling in the
> Mac App Store either). What I've done at this point is to generate new
> certificates for both the Developer ID Application and Developer ID
> Installer. There appears to be no renewal capability. I use AppWrapper to
> codesign my apps and in looking at the setup, I'm guessing that Developer
> ID Installer certificate, while required in AppWrapper, is only for when
> you build an installer package (I use a DMG).
>
> I'll have to wait till Wednesday when my old certificates expire to see if
> I have trouble with the previously signed apps. If someone knows anything
> more, I'm all ears. Hopefully I'm good for another 5 years, when I'll
> forget how to do this all over again - I love getting old!
>
> Marty
> > I would think that it’s the same as with iOS. When you go back to
> https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/ <
> https://developer.apple.com/account/mac/certificate/> after renewing your
> subscription it will most likely have an expired certificate. You make a
> new one, then go to the provisioning profile for your app, it should show
> as expired. Edit it and re-select the certificate, picking the new one.
> >
> > If the current certificate is still valid for a while you can still edit
> the provisioning profile to give it a fresh start.
> >
> > If you edit a provisioning profile file you should find an
> ExpirationDate entry that gives the date it will expire.
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Marty Knapp via use-livecode <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I sell and distribute Mac apps from my own website and have the Apple
> Developer ID Application Certificate and the Developer ID Installer
> Certificate. I've been notified that they will both expire in a couple of
> days.
> >>
> >> According to the Apple web site, if the Developer ID Installer
> Certificate expires, users will *not* be able to install any applications
> signed with the certificate. (an expired Developer ID Application
> Certificate is not a problem for existing installers).
> >>
> >> What I can't seem to find are instructions on *renewing* the
> certificate. I found one article that said I needed to revoke the old one
> and then create a new one. That makes me a little nervous. Obviously I
> don't want to screw this up and have customers going crazy, while I'm
> frantically trying to figure out what to do.
> >>
> >> You would think that Apple would have an easy Steps 1-2-3 to renew, but
> I sure can't find them. Anyone done this recently? Should I revoke the old
> one or wait till it expires?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help,
> >> Marty
> >>
>
>
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