[OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

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[OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
I'm going to do this Friday night and was looking for any advice/tricks to
make this go smooth(as much as possible). I have read about a few disasters
online when upgrading from HFS+ to the new APFS file system.

 

I am running a 16gb Early 2011 15" MacBook Pro. I CCC'ed my 1tb drive to a
new 2tb drive and then installed the 2tb drive in the MacBook . The new 2tb
drive is working just fine and dandy.

 

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

Ralph DiMola

IT Director

Evergreen Information Services

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Re: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
It’s High Sierra that has APFS, and I did have major problems in trying that. It may be better by now, but when I had to wipe my drive I went back to regular HFS+. LiveCode seems to be working ok.


> On Aug 3, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm going to do this Friday night and was looking for any advice/tricks to
> make this go smooth(as much as possible). I have read about a few disasters
> online when upgrading from HFS+ to the new APFS file system.
>
>
>
> I am running a 16gb Early 2011 15" MacBook Pro. I CCC'ed my 1tb drive to a
> new 2tb drive and then installed the 2tb drive in the MacBook . The new 2tb
> drive is working just fine and dandy.
>
>
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Ralph DiMola
>
> IT Director
>
> Evergreen Information Services
>
> [hidden email]


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Re: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
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> It’s High Sierra that has APFS, and I did have major problems in trying
> that. It may be better by now, but when I had to wipe my drive I went back
> to regular HFS+.


I would expect that when downgrading a file system . . . (or any other
change of file system other than one designed as an upgrade-in-place)


> LiveCode seems to be working ok.


I haven't had any particular quirks with it on this MacBook running high
sierra, but I spend most of my time on sierra.  (iCloud drive is
spectacular at keeping my three main machines synchronized!)

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RE: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
Thanks Monte and The Doctor... I should have explored a little deeper on the "High" version.


Ralph DiMola
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Re: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

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As others have said, Sierra (10.12.x) is good old (?) HFS+. High Sierra (10.13.x) introduces APFS and is still in developer preview beta.

I have upgraded 8 or so macs to Sierra with few problems. My biggest headache was going from 10.12.5 to 10.12.6 on only one machine that got in a fight with an ancient hp printer driver kext. That was a B#$^%^ to find. Other than that its been smooth. You have already CCC’ed to a fresh drive, so you shouldn’t have any rotten bits. CCC is indispensable!
.Jerry

> On Aug 3, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I'm going to do this Friday night and was looking for any advice/tricks to
> make this go smooth(as much as possible). I have read about a few disasters
> online when upgrading from HFS+ to the new APFS file system.


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Re: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
I am using Sierra, but I am noticing that sometimes I will click a button (not in LC I mean in ANY OS doalig) and then have to click it again to complete the click. I know I clicked it the first time because I get visual feedback like the button getting darket after the first click.

Bob S


> On Aug 3, 2017, at 19:40 , Jerry Jensen via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> As others have said, Sierra (10.12.x) is good old (?) HFS+. High Sierra (10.13.x) introduces APFS and is still in developer preview beta.
>
> I have upgraded 8 or so macs to Sierra with few problems. My biggest headache was going from 10.12.5 to 10.12.6 on only one machine that got in a fight with an ancient hp printer driver kext. That was a B#$^%^ to find. Other than that its been smooth. You have already CCC’ed to a fresh drive, so you shouldn’t have any rotten bits. CCC is indispensable!
> .Jerry

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RE: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
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Thanks Jerry et al!

I did the upgrade with no problems. I would caution anyone doing this (or any major upgrade/install) is to be patient. The install progress bar froze for an hour or more. It appeared to be cut into stone with no estimated time to completion. This was after the install progress bar logged that there were 20 minutes left for about 1.5 hours. I went to bed and in the am it was finished and I logged in with no problems.

Ralph DiMola
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Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

As others have said, Sierra (10.12.x) is good old (?) HFS+. High Sierra (10.13.x) introduces APFS and is still in developer preview beta.

I have upgraded 8 or so macs to Sierra with few problems. My biggest headache was going from 10.12.5 to 10.12.6 on only one machine that got in a fight with an ancient hp printer driver kext. That was a B#$^%^ to find. Other than that its been smooth. You have already CCC’ed to a fresh drive, so you shouldn’t have any rotten bits. CCC is indispensable!
.Jerry

> On Aug 3, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm going to do this Friday night and was looking for any
> advice/tricks to make this go smooth(as much as possible). I have read
> about a few disasters online when upgrading from HFS+ to the new APFS file system.


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Re: [OT-ish] Updating MacBook from El Capitan to Sierra to install Xcode 8.3+

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On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
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> I am using Sierra, but I am noticing that sometimes I will click a button
> (not in LC I mean in ANY OS doalig) and then have to click it again to
> complete the click. I know I clicked it the first time because I get visual
> feedback like the button getting darket after the first click.
>

It seems at time to take one more click than it should sometimes to get
livecode and/or windows into focus.

There also seems to be a frequent issue where the only way to get one of
the windows into focus is to click into another application, and then into
that livecode window.

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