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SivaSiva iOS App Approved - Android Issues/AcceleratedRendering issues

Tom Glod via use-livecode
We are very happy to announce that Apple approved SivaSiva App V1 and it is now available at the app store.  search for "SivaSiva" all one word.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spiritual-workout/id1271260502?mt=8

But we still have problems with the Android version.

you can download RC7 for Android SivaSiva.apk from here

http://dev.himalayanacademy.com/looklisten/apps/sivasiva/

open thatpage on your android device, scroll down to the link.

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Issue: Android Standalone built with 8.1.7-rc-1

whenever we use the home button or app switcher in the app.

if the stack we are leaving from has acceleratedRendering set to true (all most all stacks) when we return to the app from going out via HOME or App switcher it crashes on Android.

For details:

see bug 20419

Brahmanathaswami






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Re: SivaSiva iOS App Approved - Android Issues/AcceleratedRendering issues

Tom Glod via use-livecode
Hi Swami,

I love the imagery in this app :)

Have you considered using the plist hack so your app can stay in sleep mode in the background?



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> On Sep 18, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> We are very happy to announce that Apple approved SivaSiva App V1 and it is now available at the app store.  search for "SivaSiva" all one word.
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spiritual-workout/id1271260502?mt=8
>
> But we still have problems with the Android version.
>
> you can download RC7 for Android SivaSiva.apk from here
>
> http://dev.himalayanacademy.com/looklisten/apps/sivasiva/
>
> open thatpage on your android device, scroll down to the link.
>
> ---------
> Issue: Android Standalone built with 8.1.7-rc-1
>
> whenever we use the home button or app switcher in the app.
>
> if the stack we are leaving from has acceleratedRendering set to true (all most all stacks) when we return to the app from going out via HOME or App switcher it crashes on Android.
>
> For details:
>
> see bug 20419
>
> Brahmanathaswami
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: SivaSiva iOS App Approved - Android Issues/AcceleratedRendering issues

Tom Glod via use-livecode
I can't tell if the suggestion is a feature request or a suggestion to fix
the Android issue. If the latter, the sleep mode thing isn't an option on
Android, which always retains apps in RAM until it needs the memory.

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On September 19, 2017 2:47:26 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Swami,
>
> I love the imagery in this app :)
>
> Have you considered using the plist hack so your app can stay in sleep mode
> in the background?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> We are very happy to announce that Apple approved SivaSiva App V1 and it is
>> now available at the app store.  search for "SivaSiva" all one word.
>>
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spiritual-workout/id1271260502?mt=8
>>
>> But we still have problems with the Android version.
>>
>> you can download RC7 for Android SivaSiva.apk from here
>>
>> http://dev.himalayanacademy.com/looklisten/apps/sivasiva/
>>
>> open thatpage on your android device, scroll down to the link.
>>
>> ---------
>> Issue: Android Standalone built with 8.1.7-rc-1
>>
>> whenever we use the home button or app switcher in the app.
>>
>> if the stack we are leaving from has acceleratedRendering set to true (all
>> most all stacks) when we return to the app from going out via HOME or App
>> switcher it crashes on Android.
>>
>> For details:
>>
>> see bug 20419
>>
>> Brahmanathaswami
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: SivaSiva iOS App Approved - Android Issues/AcceleratedRendering issues

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Jonathan

I'm not sure exactly what this "stay in sleep mode" gets us… but yes, it's an interesting option.

if we use this hack, would the audio continue to play when the user goes out ?

Why are you recommending it?

-------

"imagery"

Yes, with 400,000 still images on our in-house server and 30 years of commissioned art work I'm try to leverage stills as much as we can.

I'm planning to fix the wretched scrolling on the home screen asap by flattening those groups and bring the one scrolling group to the top layer on "its own" so to speak. Most of the will be deprecated in V1.1 as we build more robust UI/UX to the content what you see was just to get us going.

Accolades don't help me, I prefer Ruthless Critique (some of my brothers here have already issued scathing reviews

"I love the app etc and don't take this the wrong way….[the good and the bad]"

So if you are into being a design reviewer… email me off list.


On 9/18/17, 9:45 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:

    Hi Swami,
   
    I love the imagery in this app :)
   
    Have you considered using the plist hack so your app can stay in sleep mode in the background?
   
   

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Re: SivaSiva iOS App Approved - Android Issues/AcceleratedRendering issues

Tom Glod via use-livecode
I was in the app and went to the section where it profiled your community members with a browser widget, pulled from your website, I think. When I got out and got back in, I had to navigate to the same place. With Ralph's plist hack, on iOS, it will sleep rather than close. That way, when you get back into it, the app is in the same place as when you left.

I was just giving you my initial observations.

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> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Jonathan
>
> I'm not sure exactly what this "stay in sleep mode" gets us… but yes, it's an interesting option.
>
> if we use this hack, would the audio continue to play when the user goes out ?
>
> Why are you recommending it?
>
> -------
>
> "imagery"
>
> Yes, with 400,000 still images on our in-house server and 30 years of commissioned art work I'm try to leverage stills as much as we can.
>
> I'm planning to fix the wretched scrolling on the home screen asap by flattening those groups and bring the one scrolling group to the top layer on "its own" so to speak. Most of the will be deprecated in V1.1 as we build more robust UI/UX to the content what you see was just to get us going.
>
> Accolades don't help me, I prefer Ruthless Critique (some of my brothers here have already issued scathing reviews
>
> "I love the app etc and don't take this the wrong way….[the good and the bad]"
>
> So if you are into being a design reviewer… email me off list.
>
>
> On 9/18/17, 9:45 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>    Hi Swami,
>
>    I love the imagery in this app :)
>
>    Have you considered using the plist hack so your app can stay in sleep mode in the background?
>
>
>
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On 19/09/2017 18:46, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:
> Accolades don't help me, I prefer Ruthless Critique (some of my brothers here have already issued scathing reviews
>
good line :-)

Picky about punctuation ....
in "App News", 10Aug2017, it has
.... button (right on iOS left on Android) after the file
        should be
.... button (right on iOS,  left on Android); after the file
(i.e. added one comma, and one semi-colon ---- other punctuation options
would also work :)

" the index will show is in a green "   - should be 'it', not 'is'

And do I really *need* to start an audio playback to download it ??
I dislike this, in the same kind of way I dislike auto-play web sites. 
When I'm in a quiet environment, I shouldn't make sound unless I need
and choose to; maybe it could open with the Player set to 'pause', so it
then took one more action before any sound, and I had a chance to
download without doing that.

Also, when you download you get a 'progress message' which is obscured
by the Player controls.
And the progress message is kind of "amateur" looking -
   Received 123Kb of 23456Kb at 678Kb/serc   is so 1980s.
Give it some kind of visual progress marker (line that fills in, or a
circle that ills round. If you want to give numbers, give the total size
and the remaining seconds or something like that.
Or, if you actually really like the current style, use multiple fields,
or tabs, or something so that the formatting of the current value
(always changing) doesn't make the rest of the text move around.

When I start the app up, I get choices "Gems", "Surprise Me" or
"Listen". If I choose listen, and then make a further choice - it's not
clear how to get back again. I *expected* the Home button to take me to
the home screen - but it takes me one step back (i.e. to 'listen'). I
spent a while trying other ways to get back to the start - because once
I had touched 'home' and it didn't take me there, I didn;t immediately
try it again.

More later if I see anything ...
Alex.




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Tom Glod via use-livecode
Sorry - that was meant to go direct, not via the list.

My deepest apologies.

Alex


On 19/09/2017 23:36, Alex Tweedly wrote:
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>
> On 19/09/2017 18:46, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:
>> Accolades don't help me, I prefer Ruthless Critique (some of my
>> brothers here have already issued scathing reviews
>>
> good line :-)
>
> Picky about punctuation ....


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Jonathan

Right -- Excellent. Thanks. I missed that before.. and yes I had this same experience and asked myself "What happened?"

OK I'll have to go back and look that up, well work doing. Agreed. I guess was testing so much in Android, I forgot that apple actually closes.  Would be nice to expose this in the LC SA settings for iOS.



On 9/19/17, 9:01 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:

    I was in the app and went to the section where it profiled your community members with a browser widget, pulled from your website, I think. When I got out and got back in, I had to navigate to the same place. With Ralph's plist hack, on iOS, it will sleep rather than close. That way, when you get back into it, the app is in the same place as when you left.
   
    I was just giving you my initial observations.
   
   

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