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how the internet works : the official explanation

mwieder
For a hilarious explanation of how the internet works, check out:

http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/?entry_id=1512499

"And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on.
It's not a truck.

It's a series of tubes."

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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

Stephen Barncard
This is not funny; this is tragic.

This is from the same thinking that created the 'record every click
in the net '  concept.

sqb


>For a hilarious explanation of how the internet works, check out:
>
>http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/?entry_id=1512499
>
>"And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on.
>It's not a truck.
>
>It's a series of tubes."
>
>--
>-Mark Wieder
>  [hidden email]

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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

Jack Smith-4
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You should probably take his age into account. My dad is younger than Ted
Stevens and he knows even less about the internet. I recently set up an old
Windows 98 computer for him to play his casino games. All he knows is casino
games and MSN hotmail - and if the Internet Explorer homepage shows anything
besides MSN, he gets in a fit!

So I hesitate to make fun of this guy.

On 7/5/06, Stephen Barncard <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> This is not funny; this is tragic.
>
> This is from the same thinking that created the 'record every click
> in the net '  concept.
>
> sqb
>
>
> >For a hilarious explanation of how the internet works, check out:
> >
> >http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/?entry_id=1512499
> >
> >"And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on.
> >It's not a truck.
> >
> >It's a series of tubes."
> >
> >--
> >-Mark Wieder
> >  [hidden email]
>
> --
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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

Stephen Barncard
Boy I have no reservations. If this idiot actually tries to pass laws
about something for me, at least he should do some research, and not
base his ideas on his own lame experience.

  Internet stuff is not rocket science to understand - and these guys
are also behind the funding ALL technical spending by the government.
They had better get up to speed or stand aside for the new generation
of politicians who really do understand.

sqb

>You should probably take his age into account. My dad is younger than Ted
>Stevens and he knows even less about the internet. I recently set up an old
>Windows 98 computer for him to play his casino games. All he knows is casino
>games and MSN hotmail - and if the Internet Explorer homepage shows anything
>besides MSN, he gets in a fit!
>
>So I hesitate to make fun of this guy.

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Jack Smith-4
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That's true, they should leave this to senators who understand it, but with
age comes seniority :-) I don't think it's really possible for him to get
"up to speed" though, and not because he's an idiot. He isn't - nobody who
reaches that level of political success is an idiot (whether you agree with
his politics or not). Even my dad, the guy who does nothing online but read
email, served 37 years in the Navy - not an idiot, just from a different
world.

On 7/5/06, Stephen Barncard <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Boy I have no reservations. If this idiot actually tries to pass laws
> about something for me, at least he should do some research, and not
> base his ideas on his own lame experience.
>
>   Internet stuff is not rocket science to understand - and these guys
> are also behind the funding ALL technical spending by the government.
> They had better get up to speed or stand aside for the new generation
> of politicians who really do understand.
>
> sqb
>
> >You should probably take his age into account. My dad is younger than Ted
> >Stevens and he knows even less about the internet. I recently set up an
> old
> >Windows 98 computer for him to play his casino games. All he knows is
> casino
> >games and MSN hotmail - and if the Internet Explorer homepage shows
> anything
> >besides MSN, he gets in a fit!
> >
> >So I hesitate to make fun of this guy.
>
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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

Brian Yennie
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This guy certainly have some laughable sound bites, but is his
understanding of the issues really THAT bad? I know it's funny for him
to say that "the internet" took days to get to him, or that it's a
bunch of tubes, however... the fact is that widespread VOIP and
streaming video _does_ threaten to slow down everyone's internet
experience by using enormous amounts of bandwidth.

He'd sound a lot better if he used the words "bandwidth" and "email and
didn't have a lame personal example, but then again the vast number of
people out there simply believe that bandwidth is some sort of
unlimited resource.

I enjoy a good laugh at clueless politicians, and this guy certainly
set himself up, but his conclusions probably didn't come from his lost
e-mail. More likely someone actually explained the issues to him and he
just stinks at speaking about it.

Beats the heck out of a smooth talking politician screwing the little
guy - at least he's looking out for the consumer in all of this.

> Boy I have no reservations. If this idiot actually tries to pass laws
> about something for me, at least he should do some research, and not
> base his ideas on his own lame experience.
>
>  Internet stuff is not rocket science to understand - and these guys
> are also behind the funding ALL technical spending by the government.
> They had better get up to speed or stand aside for the new generation
> of politicians who really do understand.
>
> sqb
>
>> You should probably take his age into account. My dad is younger than
>> Ted
>> Stevens and he knows even less about the internet. I recently set up
>> an old
>> Windows 98 computer for him to play his casino games. All he knows is
>> casino
>> games and MSN hotmail - and if the Internet Explorer homepage shows
>> anything
>> besides MSN, he gets in a fit!
>>
>> So I hesitate to make fun of this guy.
>
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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

barryb@libero.it
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The pigeon - airplane metaphore was certainly well contrived by Andre but care should be taken in copying it literally (n.b. Peter and Dan).

Pigeons CANNOT make round trips or even deliver outgoing messages!
 If you want one to carry a message you must first take the bird to the starting point (probably by plane), attach the message and then send it home (hence the name 'homing pigeon').
 That is: only the owner of the pigeon can receive a message carried by it and if they try to send OUT a message the bird will
just fly in circles with it around their own house!

Internet-wise this would be like taking a blank message by hand, or snailmail, to a friend and waiting for them fill it in and send it back by email!

As for the Senators discorse I can only add the Italian Parliament Member's declaration that "internet should be taught in schools", whatever that means, anyway most teachers would probably have to learn from the students!

"Every Government should carry a Health Warning"

OK, I'm rambling again.
Thanks for all the kind answers to my first 'ramblings'
Barry



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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

Andre Garzia
Hey Barry,

I said that my pigeons were SUPER CLEVER!!!! I know about homing  
pigeons, but, my pigeons have a disfunctional personality and think  
they have more then one home... you just go like:

OWNER: "now, you're steve, and you home is in cupertino...."
PIGEON: "Gurl! Gurl!"
OWNER: "repeat my name is steve, my home is in cupertino...."
PIGEON: "Gurl! Gurl!"
OWNER: "my name, is, steve..."
PIGEON: "Gurlpertinoo"
OWNER: "Off you go boy!"

After the piegon arrives...

OWNER: "Okay, good boy, take a pigeon cookie (or whatever pigeon eats)"
PIGEON: "Gurlpertino"
OWNER: "Now, you're Larry and your home is in california..."
PIGEON: "Gurlpertinooo"
OWNER: "Larry, in california..."
PIGEON: "GOORGLE!!!!"

an so on....

man I really should not write emails before coffee.

andre

On Jul 6, 2006, at 7:22 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> The pigeon - airplane metaphore was certainly well contrived by  
> Andre but care should be taken in copying it literally (n.b. Peter  
> and Dan).
>
> Pigeons CANNOT make round trips or even deliver outgoing messages!
>  If you want one to carry a message you must first take the bird to  
> the starting point (probably by plane), attach the message and then  
> send it home (hence the name 'homing pigeon').
>  That is: only the owner of the pigeon can receive a message  
> carried by it and if they try to send OUT a message the bird will
> just fly in circles with it around their own house!
>
> Internet-wise this would be like taking a blank message by hand, or  
> snailmail, to a friend and waiting for them fill it in and send it  
> back by email!
>
> As for the Senators discorse I can only add the Italian Parliament  
> Member's declaration that "internet should be taught in schools",  
> whatever that means, anyway most teachers would probably have to  
> learn from the students!
>
> "Every Government should carry a Health Warning"
>
> OK, I'm rambling again.
> Thanks for all the kind answers to my first 'ramblings'
> Barry
>
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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

barryb@libero.it
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Sorry Andre ,
Having initially noticed your caveat about super intelligence, I decided not to write about the pigeons but the next day I'd forgotten that and I wrote it.

Anyway I think people who do not understand pigeon behaviour and might take your ideas too seriously should be glad of your explanation.

Your answer just shows that you are much funnier than I realized!
Hope we don't get a tutorial from Dan explaining how to programme pigeons!

Barry Barber

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Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

Judy Perry
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Someone is on some serious meds here... or needs some @;-)

I think I'm gonna have to bookmark this one for next semester's course on
"Computers & Society" -- and some of the bozos who regulate the same.

And there are clearly rather alot of people who think of it as a major
dumping space...

Judy

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Mark Wieder wrote:

> For a hilarious explanation of how the internet works, check out:
>
> http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/?entry_id=1512499
>
> "And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on.
> It's not a truck.
>
> It's a series of tubes."

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Judy Perry
In reply to this post by Brian Yennie
You know, you all/we all are speaking of this in a highly rarified
environment. WE understand that there is more than one family of computer
processing chips; WE know that (a) there is more than one operating
system, and (b) what an operating system is.  Unlike a frightening number
of my non-CS major students, WE can tell the difference between a URL and
an email address; WE know what a search engine is.

Fact is, most people don't grasp any of the above.  Really.

As dumb as I am/might be, the vast majority of the consumer public is
considerably dumber still.

See "Welcome to the Internet Helpdesk" at
http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html

I still laugh myself silly when I channel people I know into this skit...

Judy


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