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strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Klaus major-k
Hi all,

i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.

I has a script like this:
on opencard
  wait 5 secs
  go next cd
end opencard

In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows
I see NOTHING for 5 secs and then second card of this stack appear and
the stack HAS the windowshape set!?

Now if I remove the windowshape (set to 0 again), everything works as advertised!?
LC 8.01, Windows 7. Works also fine in the IDE!

Anyone else seen this?


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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Paul Dupuis
On 6/14/2016 9:56 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>
> I has a script like this:
> on opencard
>   wait 5 secs
>   go next cd
> end opencard
>
> In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows
> I see NOTHING for 5 secs and then second card of this stack appear and
> the stack HAS the windowshape set!?
>
> Now if I remove the windowshape (set to 0 again), everything works as advertised!?
> LC 8.01, Windows 7. Works also fine in the IDE!
>
> Anyone else seen this?
>

I have not seen this exact weirdness, but on Windows 8.x and 10 I have
seen other weirdness. For example, app which work fine in the IDE, but
when built as a standalone, the mainstack window never appears on launch
(like the exe is running with the -ui command line parameter as headless
or something) or the mainstack window only appears after a very long
while and usually after I am about to force quit it through the task
manager or have spent time interacting with other applications and it
finally (minutes later) appears in the background.

So far I have been unable to consistently get any of this weirdness
repeatable in a test case I could file a bug report on, but since
someone else has brought up the topic, I figured I'd respond with the
issue's I've seen.


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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Klaus major-k
Hi Paul,

> Am 14.06.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Paul Dupuis <[hidden email]>:
>
> On 6/14/2016 9:56 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>
>> I has a script like this:
>> on opencard
>>  wait 5 secs
>>  go next cd
>> end opencard
>>
>> In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows
>> I see NOTHING for 5 secs and then second card of this stack appear and
>> the stack HAS the windowshape set!?
>>
>> Now if I remove the windowshape (set to 0 again), everything works as advertised!?
>> LC 8.01, Windows 7. Works also fine in the IDE!
>>
>> Anyone else seen this?
>
> I have not seen this exact weirdness, but on Windows 8.x and 10 I have
> seen other weirdness. For example, app which work fine in the IDE, but
> when built as a standalone, the mainstack window never appears on launch
> (like the exe is running with the -ui command line parameter as headless
> or something) or the mainstack window only appears after a very long
> while and usually after I am about to force quit it through the task
> manager or have spent time interacting with other applications and it
> finally (minutes later) appears in the background.
>
> So far I have been unable to consistently get any of this weirdness
> repeatable in a test case I could file a bug report on, but since
> someone else has brought up the topic, I figured I'd respond with the
> issue's I've seen.

I was finally able to find a recipe, this will only happen under certain circumstances,
and reported this as a bug: <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17846>


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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Mike Bonner
Paul, I've seen this too.  Launch a standalone and it doesn't show.  I've
only seen this when using the browser widget as part of the build. (haven't
really used other widgets, so I can't speak for those)  If I then go into
task manager and tell it to create a dump file for my application, poof..
it moves from background processes to apps and works fine, including the
browser widget.  (I can also make it appear by choosing to debug)
Removing the widget, or not putting the check in the box for it in
standalone settings makes the app show up just fine. But of course without
a functional widget.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Klaus major-k <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> > Am 14.06.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Paul Dupuis <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > On 6/14/2016 9:56 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
> >>
> >> I has a script like this:
> >> on opencard
> >>  wait 5 secs
> >>  go next cd
> >> end opencard
> >>
> >> In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows
> >> I see NOTHING for 5 secs and then second card of this stack appear and
> >> the stack HAS the windowshape set!?
> >>
> >> Now if I remove the windowshape (set to 0 again), everything works as
> advertised!?
> >> LC 8.01, Windows 7. Works also fine in the IDE!
> >>
> >> Anyone else seen this?
> >
> > I have not seen this exact weirdness, but on Windows 8.x and 10 I have
> > seen other weirdness. For example, app which work fine in the IDE, but
> > when built as a standalone, the mainstack window never appears on launch
> > (like the exe is running with the -ui command line parameter as headless
> > or something) or the mainstack window only appears after a very long
> > while and usually after I am about to force quit it through the task
> > manager or have spent time interacting with other applications and it
> > finally (minutes later) appears in the background.
> >
> > So far I have been unable to consistently get any of this weirdness
> > repeatable in a test case I could file a bug report on, but since
> > someone else has brought up the topic, I figured I'd respond with the
> > issue's I've seen.
>
> I was finally able to find a recipe, this will only happen under certain
> circumstances,
> and reported this as a bug: <
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17846>
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
> --
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> http://www.major-k.de
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Paul Dupuis
On 6/14/2016 11:47 AM, Mike Bonner wrote:
> Paul, I've seen this too.  Launch a standalone and it doesn't show.  I've
> only seen this when using the browser widget as part of the build. (haven't
> really used other widgets, so I can't speak for those)  If I then go into
> task manager and tell it to create a dump file for my application, poof..
> it moves from background processes to apps and works fine, including the
> browser widget.  (I can also make it appear by choosing to debug)
> Removing the widget, or not putting the check in the box for it in
> standalone settings makes the app show up just fine. But of course without
> a functional widget.

It is comforting (sort of, although I wish it wasn't happening at all)
to hear that I am not the only one who has run into this. In my case,
this is all using LC6.7.x (currently 6.7.11), so no widgets are
involved, so I am not sure Widgets are the root cause.

The damnedest thing is that it is not consistent!

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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Mike Bonner
I'll keep my fingers crossed that its located and fixed.  If I find a
reliable recipe I'll report it, but so far no luck. (the same standalone
does sometimes start correctly.  Annoying!)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Paul Dupuis <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 6/14/2016 11:47 AM, Mike Bonner wrote:
> > Paul, I've seen this too.  Launch a standalone and it doesn't show.  I've
> > only seen this when using the browser widget as part of the build.
> (haven't
> > really used other widgets, so I can't speak for those)  If I then go into
> > task manager and tell it to create a dump file for my application, poof..
> > it moves from background processes to apps and works fine, including the
> > browser widget.  (I can also make it appear by choosing to debug)
> > Removing the widget, or not putting the check in the box for it in
> > standalone settings makes the app show up just fine. But of course
> without
> > a functional widget.
>
> It is comforting (sort of, although I wish it wasn't happening at all)
> to hear that I am not the only one who has run into this. In my case,
> this is all using LC6.7.x (currently 6.7.11), so no widgets are
> involved, so I am not sure Widgets are the root cause.
>
> The damnedest thing is that it is not consistent!
>
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

ScottR
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Hi Klaus:

I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?

wait 5 secs with messages

Or:

send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds

command goNextCard
   go next cd
end goNextCard


Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
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>Hi all,
>
>i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>
>I has a script like this:
>on opencard
>  wait 5 secs
>  go next cd
>end opencard
>
>In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows
>I see NOTHING for 5 secs and then second card of this stack appear and
>the stack HAS the windowshape set!?
>
>Now if I remove the windowshape (set to 0 again), everything works as
>advertised!?
>LC 8.01, Windows 7. Works also fine in the IDE!
>
>Anyone else seen this?
>
>
>Best
>
>Klaus
>--
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>http://www.major-k.de
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Dar Scott
Without knowing the context and just adding random things:

   send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds


> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Klaus:
>
> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>
> wait 5 secs with messages
>
> Or:
>
> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>
> command goNextCard
>   go next cd
> end goNextCard
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
> <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>
>> I has a script like this:
>> on opencard
>> wait 5 secs
>> go next cd
>> end opencard
>>
>> In a standalone on a Mac, everything works as exspected, on Windows
>> I see NOTHING for 5 secs and then second card of this stack appear and
>> the stack HAS the windowshape set!?
>>
>> Now if I remove the windowshape (set to 0 again), everything works as
>> advertised!?
>> LC 8.01, Windows 7. Works also fine in the IDE!
>>
>> Anyone else seen this?
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Klaus
>> --
>> Klaus Major
>> http://www.major-k.de
>> [hidden email]
>>
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Klaus major-k
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Hi Scott,

> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Scott Rossi <[hidden email]>:
>
> Hi Klaus:
>
> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>
> wait 5 secs with messages
>
> Or:
>
> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>
> command goNextCard
>   go next cd
> end goNextCard

thanks, just tested, same result, no stack with windwoshape.

> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
> <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>
>> I has a script like this:
>> on opencard
>> wait 5 secs
>> go next cd
>> end opencard

Best

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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Klaus major-k
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Hi Dar,

> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott <[hidden email]>:
>
> Without knowing the context and just adding random things:
>
>   send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds

that was the next thing to try, and YES, that actually works! :-)

>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Klaus:
>>
>> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
>> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>>
>> wait 5 secs with messages
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>>
>> command goNextCard
>>  go next cd
>> end goNextCard
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>
>>
>> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
>> <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>>
>>> I has a script like this:
>>> on opencard
>>> wait 5 secs
>>> go next cd
>>> end opencard

Best

Klaus

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RE: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

beugelaar
This is what we call "the slang language of LiveCode" feature ;-)
Good to know this!


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Sent: dinsdag 14 juni 2016 22:08
To: How to use LiveCode <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Hi Dar,

> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott <[hidden email]>:
>
> Without knowing the context and just adding random things:
>
>   send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds

that was the next thing to try, and YES, that actually works! :-)

>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Klaus:
>>
>> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
>> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>>
>> wait 5 secs with messages
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>>
>> command goNextCard
>>  go next cd
>> end goNextCard
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>
>>
>> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
>> <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>>
>>> I has a script like this:
>>> on opencard
>>> wait 5 secs
>>> go next cd
>>> end opencard

Best

Klaus

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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Dar Scott
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Now that is goofy.  Why would that work and Scott's not?  

Did you remember the "in 5 seconds" for his?

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Klaus major-k <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dar,
>
>> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Without knowing the context and just adding random things:
>>
>>  send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds
>
> that was the next thing to try, and YES, that actually works! :-)
>
>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Klaus:
>>>
>>> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
>>> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>>>
>>> wait 5 secs with messages
>>>
>>> Or:
>>>
>>> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>>>
>>> command goNextCard
>>> go next cd
>>> end goNextCard
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Scott Rossi
>>> Creative Director
>>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
>>> <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>>>
>>>> I has a script like this:
>>>> on opencard
>>>> wait 5 secs
>>>> go next cd
>>>> end opencard
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Klaus major-k
Hi Dra,

> Am 14.06.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Dar Scott <[hidden email]>:
>
> Now that is goofy.  Why would that work and Scott's not?  

well, that's a rhetorical question, right? ;-)

I added an appropriate comment to the bug report!

> Did you remember the "in 5 seconds" for his?

From the card script:
...  
send "go next" to me in 5 secs
# wait 5 seconds with messages
# go to next card
...
OK? 8-)


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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Dar Scott
Of course.  It is a bug.  Bugs are supposed to act strange.  

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Klaus major-k <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dra,
>
>> Am 14.06.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Dar Scott <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Now that is goofy.  Why would that work and Scott's not?  
>
> well, that's a rhetorical question, right? ;-)
>
> I added an appropriate comment to the bug report!
>
>> Did you remember the "in 5 seconds" for his?
>
>> From the card script:
> ...  
> send "go next" to me in 5 secs
> # wait 5 seconds with messages
> # go to next card
> ...
> OK? 8-)
>
>
> Best
>
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Richard Gaskin
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The whole thing is goofy.  Why is openStack behaving like preOpenStack
just because it's a non-standard window style?

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Dar wrote:

> Now that is goofy.  Why would that work and Scott's not?
>
> Did you remember the "in 5 seconds" for his?
>
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Klaus major-k <klaus at major-k.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dar,
>>
>>> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott <dsc at swcp.com>:
>>>
>>> Without knowing the context and just adding random things:
>>>
>>>  send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds
>>
>> that was the next thing to try, and YES, that actually works! :-)
>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi <scott at tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Klaus:
>>>>
>>>> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
>>>> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>>>>
>>>> wait 5 secs with messages
>>>>
>>>> Or:
>>>>
>>>> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>>>>
>>>> command goNextCard
>>>> go next cd
>>>> end goNextCard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Scott Rossi
>>>> Creative Director
>>>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
>>>> <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of klaus at major-k.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>>>>
>>>>> I has a script like this:
>>>>> on opencard
>>>>> wait 5 secs
>>>>> go next cd
>>>>> end opencard
>>
>> Best


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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Mike Bonner
Silly question but.. Is the image id that you're setting your windowshape
to an imported image or a referenced image?  While it doesn't explain the
2nd window having a windowshape and the first not (unless both do have
windowshapes set...) ,it might explain why the windowshape for the first is
blank if things occur before the reference is fulfilled.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Richard Gaskin <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> The whole thing is goofy.  Why is openStack behaving like preOpenStack
> just because it's a non-standard window style?
>
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> Dar wrote:
>
>> Now that is goofy.  Why would that work and Scott's not?
>>
>> Did you remember the "in 5 seconds" for his?
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Klaus major-k <klaus at major-k.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dar,
>>>
>>> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott <dsc at swcp.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Without knowing the context and just adding random things:
>>>>
>>>>  send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds
>>>>
>>>
>>> that was the next thing to try, and YES, that actually works! :-)
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi <scott at tactilemedia.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Klaus:
>>>>>
>>>>> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
>>>>> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>>>>>
>>>>> wait 5 secs with messages
>>>>>
>>>>> Or:
>>>>>
>>>>> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> command goNextCard
>>>>> go next cd
>>>>> end goNextCard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Rossi
>>>>> Creative Director
>>>>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
>>>>> <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of klaus at
>>>>> major-k.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I has a script like this:
>>>>>> on opencard
>>>>>> wait 5 secs
>>>>>> go next cd
>>>>>> end opencard
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Klaus major-k
Hi Mike,

> Am 15.06.2016 um 00:00 schrieb Mike Bonner <[hidden email]>:
>
> Silly question but.. Is the image id that you're setting your windowshape
> to an imported image or a referenced image?  While it doesn't explain the
> 2nd window having a windowshape and the first not (unless both do have
> windowshapes set...) ,it might explain why the windowshape for the first is
> blank if things occur before the reference is fulfilled.

it is an imported image!


Best

Klaus

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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Mike Bonner
Ah well, I was hoping.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Klaus major-k <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> > Am 15.06.2016 um 00:00 schrieb Mike Bonner <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > Silly question but.. Is the image id that you're setting your windowshape
> > to an imported image or a referenced image?  While it doesn't explain the
> > 2nd window having a windowshape and the first not (unless both do have
> > windowshapes set...) ,it might explain why the windowshape for the first
> is
> > blank if things occur before the reference is fulfilled.
>
> it is an imported image!
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Dar Scott
In reply to this post by beugelaar
Be careful!  There are some things you can do with 'do' but can't send with 'send'.  Also, as I recall, not all you can 'call' can lend itself to 'send'.  I've seen things that 'do' did but sent d'n't. Also, a sending pending is not the same as a do doing since a pending sending is not done as is a done 'do'.  So, unless I need pending, I do do instead of sending a send.  

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Erik Beugelaar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This is what we call "the slang language of LiveCode" feature ;-)
> Good to know this!
>
>
> Sent from solidit
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-livecode [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
> Of Klaus major-k
> Sent: dinsdag 14 juni 2016 22:08
> To: How to use LiveCode <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape
>
> Hi Dar,
>
>> Am 14.06.2016 um 21:51 schrieb Dar Scott <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Without knowing the context and just adding random things:
>>
>>  send "go next card" to me in 5 seconds
>
> that was the next thing to try, and YES, that actually works! :-)
>
>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Scott Rossi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Klaus:
>>>
>>> I may not have seen all your responses, but did you try adding "with
>>> messages" to your code or delaying the card advance using "end in"?
>>>
>>> wait 5 secs with messages
>>>
>>> Or:
>>>
>>> send "goNextCard" to me in 5 seconds
>>>
>>> command goNextCard
>>> go next cd
>>> end goNextCard
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Scott Rossi
>>> Creative Director
>>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/14/16, 6:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k"
>>> <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> i have a stack with a "splash" screen which has an windowshape set.
>>>>
>>>> I has a script like this:
>>>> on opencard
>>>> wait 5 secs
>>>> go next cd
>>>> end opencard
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
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> http://www.major-k.de
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Re: strange experience in Windows standalone with windowshape

Mike Bonner
I've read this 3 times now and I'm still fascinated.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Dar Scott <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Be careful!  There are some things you can do with 'do' but can't send
> with 'send'.  Also, as I recall, not all you can 'call' can lend itself to
> 'send'.  I've seen things that 'do' did but sent d'n't. Also, a sending
> pending is not the same as a do doing since a pending sending is not done
> as is a done 'do'.  So, unless I need pending, I do do instead of sending a
> send.
>
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